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Adam Mastroianni's avatar

Alternative hypotheses that exonerate dating apps (apologies if you've covered these before):

-People mistake hating *dating* for hating dating *apps*. Dating is inherently an annoying process because you encounter assholes and awkward situations, etc. And it's not clear when you're making progress; you stumble around for a while and suffer through a bunch of false starts before you find someone. (It would be much more enjoyable if, like DoorDash, Hinge could show you a progress bar that indicates how long until your soulmate arrives.) Dating apps didn't create these problems, but they touch them, and so now they get blamed for them.

-The people who hate dating apps the most are the ones stuck on them, creating a perverse selection effect. Some of those people are just unlucky in love, and some of those are assholes who should not be in the company of others, but regardless they all join in the chorus of "dating apps suck". Imagine if the only people still using DoorDash were the ones who haven't gotten their pizza yet.

-Although it's no longer stigmatized to meet someone on an app, everyone still agrees it's more romantic to meet some other way, and so people feel annoyed about using apps and blame the app for this.

-There's something extremely annoying about being shown bad options. When you're single at a bar, you are not bothered by any single people there that you find unattractive (unless they keep trying to flirt with you). But dating apps really rub your nose in people you don't want to date: how about THIS one?? What about THIS one?? This makes the process feel worse and is, I suppose, the fault of the app.

I read a study in 2017 that collected a ton of variables at a speed dating event and tried to predict who would like each other (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56c0eeaa7c65e465b5050feb/t/5d029067586cb80001d24d5d/1560449128234/132_JoelEastwickFinkel2017_PSci.pdf). They ended up with "uh, you'll probably like this person if you like people in general, and this person will probably like you if people like you in general". Maybe the state of the art has progressed since then, but if not, then dating apps might not actually have much insight beyond knowing who's a big like-er and who's a big like-ee, and it's not like they're hiding a bunch of great matches from you. But I don't know. I must have gone through several thousand profiles and a few dozen dates before I met my wife through an app. It turns out she had joined the week before. A good app, of course, would have made her join exactly when I did, and I will never forgive Hinge for this.

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Sam Harsimony's avatar

This is a good point. I think any explanation for why dating apps are bad should also be able to explain:

- why social media is full of ragebait

- why streaming services are full of shows that string you along

- Why its hard to stop eating junk food once you've started

Here's my attempt: humans optimize not only for direct rewards (a life partner, in the case of dating apps), but the promise of rewards (going on a date with someone who might become your life partner).

This is because the world is complicated and it's hard to learn from a sparse signal (finding a life partner only happens one time), so you have to seek proxies of life partners too (dates, sex, DM's, etc.). People actually get reward from these proxies, that's how we're wired.

Dating apps have figured out how to give you the proxies. So now they can make money by both finding you a life partner *and* setting you up on a bunch of dead-end dates.

There's an optimal mixture of the two that maximizes profits, so dating companies do both. Many have found life partners on dating apps.

This applies to other hyperstimuli I listed above. They strike a balance between selling direct reward and selling proxies for it. It just turns out that our brains put an uncomfortable amount of weight on the proxies and not the actual reward.

For more I recommend this post on why hyperstimuli are designed to be unstatisfying:

https://www.sympatheticopposition.com/p/hyperstimuli-are-understimulating

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