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Isaac King's avatar

Wonderful article, thank you for doing this research. You point out that no one has been prosecuted for violations, which is encouraging, but in reality this is all enforced via social mechanisms. A personal example:

As a hobby, I help officiate ("judge") Magic: The Gathering tournaments. The game is complicated and the tournaments have high prizes, so the Magic judges have their own tests and certifications and whatnot to ensure they know what they're doing. There are always arguments over whether the tests are too hard or too easy, and what level of knowledge is reasonable to expect from the (extremely underpaid) judges.

I was curious myself to get an idea of the baseline, so I started keeping track of the rulings I saw other judges take and how many they got right or wrong. (Note: watching other judges answer questions about the game is normal and in fact encouraged in case they need help; the only thing I was doing differently was writing down the result on a notepad on my phone. This is happening in a large convention center, so I had no private access; any person off the street could have done the exact same thing.)

After I had observed a few hundred rulings from a few dozen different judges, I made a short post on my personal Facebook page, saying "of calls taken by level 1/2/3 judges that I watched, they got X% correct without needing my help".

Dozens of judges and players swarmed my post to tell me that I was doing human subjects research, and thus needed an IRB. I was told that I had violated the Nuremburg Code, and was "bringing Nazism into judging". Several said that, by not asking other judges for their explicit consent to write down their answer on a notepad, I had "violated their consent", and implied that this meant I was in support of rape. Of the ~6 companies that run large Magic tournaments in North America, every one of them proceeded to ban me from judging for them. Most still have me banned now, 3 years later.

So I don't think the core problem here is the government. The average person just really loves exerting control over others and preventing them from trying to learn things about others. Our dystopian regulatory system is just the will of the people in this respect.

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Alex C.'s avatar

See also psychiatrist Scott Alexander's blog post, "My IRB Nightmare", where he describes his surreal, Kafkaesque struggle to conduct a simple survey.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/08/29/my-irb-nightmare/

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