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Ben's avatar
Feb 20Edited

Interesting! I feel like I slightly disagree with the general conclusion that this study provides evidence against semaglutides being good (or miraculous) for alcohol use disorder for a couple reasons:

-The placebo was SO good (reducing alcohol use by >1/2 over a few weeks) that it's hard to imagine that even if GLP-1 was working optimally it could perform any better! I think the takeaway here is less that we can learn anything about semaglutide's utility and more that bringing alcoholics into a lab and injecting them once a week is a miraculously good intervention against alcohol use disorder. But it's possible that this could fail to generalize over long time horizons, and obviously seems impractical, whereas semaglutides could continue to work as well as the placebo is working in this study (we have no evidence either way to this).

-I basically think that outcomes 2 and 3 from the study are epistemically near-useless in determining whether semaglutides are effective. Like, the delayed drinking experiment is obviously so silly and I don't think would provide any evidence in any direction regardless of the outcome. Like, if you told me that every person in the control group drank the alcohol immediately and every person in the experimental group waited the entire 50 minutes, I still probably wouldn't index on it at all, just because of how meaningless it is as a proxy for alcoholism, and I would assume the drugs or the lab setting were just having some second-order effect on people's patience.

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Andrea Holberg's avatar

Thank you for this! It's very thought-provoking for me. I have been following the research on this as closely as I can. I am on tirzepatide, not semiglutide. I have been obese for most of my life and definitely fall into the "alcohol use disorder" level of consumption. My experience has been fairly dramatic weight loss, and that alcohol is less appealing. My alcohol consumption has dropped some, but not as much as I hoped it effortlessly would. Basically, fried food and sugar do nothing for me now, and I get full fast when I eat, but I still like my drinks, and they still go down easy.

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